Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/26/1996 08:30 AM House FIN

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  HOUSE BILL NO. 412                                                           
                                                                               
       "An Act  making appropriations  for  the operating  and                 
       loan program expenses of state  government, for certain                 
       programs,    and    to    capitalize   funds;    making                 
       appropriations under art.  IX, sec. 17(c), Constitution                 
       of the State of Alaska,  from the constitutional budget                 
                                                                               
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       reserve fund; and providing for an effective date."                     
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF LABOR                                                          
                                                                               
  Representative Brown MOVED to  adopt Amendment Labor-1 (copy                 
  on file).   Representative Mulder OBJECTED.   Representative                 
  Brown spoke in support of the  amendment.  Amendment Labor-1                 
  would   add    $75.0   thousand   dollars   to   a   restore                 
  boiler/pressure vessel inspector position in Fairbanks.  She                 
  noted that one out of five units inspected are found to have                 
  violations.  She observed that  the position generates fees.                 
  This  position  performs  an   average  of  800  inspections                 
  annually.   She  emphasized the liability  to the  State for                 
  failure to perform  inspections.   She maintained that  this                 
  reduction is too deep into the core functions of the State.                  
                                                                               
  Representative    Brown    asserted     that    subcommittee                 
  recommendations are $3.5 million dollars below caps assigned                 
  by  the  House  Majority.   She  stated  that  there are  no                 
  appropriate   decrements  remaining  in  the  budget.    She                 
  maintained that the  remaining functions  are necessary  and                 
  essential.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley noted  that subcommittee recommendations had                 
  not been adopted.                                                            
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown WITHDREW her motion to adopt Amendment                 
  Labor-1.                                                                     
                                                                               
  SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Mulder  MOVED  to  adopt  all  House Finance                 
  Subcommittee recommendations (copies on  file).  There being                 
  NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                             
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF LABOR                                                          
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  MOVED  to  adopt  Amendment  Labor-1.                 
  Representative  Mulder   OBJECTED.    He   noted  that  this                 
  reduction was proposed by the Governor.   He stated that the                 
  Department indicated they  thought that this  function could                 
  be offset by the remaining positions.                                        
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault  noted that Amendment  HSS-7 would                 
  also restore this  position.  Amendment HSS-7  would restore                 
  $75.0  thousand   dollars  for   a  boiler/pressure   vessel                 
  inspector position with  an equal  decrement from the  State                 
  Medical Examiners.                                                           
                                                                               
  JANET CLARK, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES discussed Amendment                 
  HSS-7.  She stressed that the State Medical Examiner program                 
                                                                               
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  was  previously  known  as  the  Postmortem  program.    She                 
  observed  that  bodies had  been  shipped to  Anchorage from                 
  rural areas for autopsy.  She noted that FY 95 is  the first                 
  year  that  the  program  has  been without  a  supplemental                 
  request.  She  stressed that  a loss of  a position in  this                 
  program will  result in  higher contract  costs.   She noted                 
  that  as a state  employee witness fees are  not paid to the                 
  medical  examiner   for   testimony   in   cases   regarding                 
  unexplained  deaths.    The  Department  of  Law  has  saved                 
  approximately  $80.0 thousand  dollars from  a reduction  in                 
  witness fees.   She maintained that the  number of autopsies                 
  for unexplained deaths have been reduced.                                    
                                                                               
  In response  to a  question by  Representative Parnell,  Ms.                 
  Clark  noted  that  some contractual  costs  are  needed for                 
  autopsies in Ketchikan and to pay transportation costs.  She                 
  stressed that  the contractual line  has been reduced.   She                 
  reiterated that if  the deputy medical examiner  was deleted                 
  that the State would  pay more than is saved  in contractual                 
  costs.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley restated  that the  Department of Law  saved                 
  $80.0 thousand dollars in witness costs.                                     
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown MOVED  to  amend Amendment  LABOR-1 by                 
  adding a funding source; delete  $30.0 thousand dollars from                 
  the Department of Health & Social Services, contractual line                 
  of the  State Medical  Examiner and  $40.0 thousand  dollars                 
  from  the  Department  of   Law,  Civil  Division,   General                 
  Services.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                      
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown MOVED  to  adopt Amendment  Labor-1 as                 
  amended.  Representative Mulder OBJECTED.   A roll call vote                 
  was  taken  on  the MOTION  to  adopt  Amendment Labor-1  as                 
  amended.                                                                     
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown,  Grussendorf,   Navarre,  Kelly,   Parnell,                 
  Therriault,         Foster, Hanley                                           
  OPPOSED:  Kohring, Mulder                                                    
                                                                               
  Representative Martin was absent from the vote.                              
                                                                               
  The MOTION PASSED (2-8).                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Mulder disclosed that his wife is a lobbyist.                 
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                              
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Foster  MOVED  to  adopt  CED-1  (copy  on  file).                 
  Amendment CED-1 would  add $300.0  thousand dollars for  the                 
  Kotzebue Technical Center (KTC) by deleting  $100.0 thousand                 
  dollars from the  Office of the Governor,  Contingency Fund;                 
                                                                               
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  $100.0  thousand  dollars  from the  Division  of  Trade and                 
  Development,   Department   of    Commerce   and    Economic                 
  Development; and $100.0 thousand dollars  from the Office of                 
  the Ombudsman.                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre OBJECTED.  He  noted that he supports                 
  the increment but  objected to reductions in  the Department                 
  of  Commerce and Economic Development and  the Office of the                 
  Governor, Contingency Fund.                                                  
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Foster  WITHDREW Amendment  CED-1.   Representative                 
  Grussendorf noted  that  he has  a  similar amendment.    He                 
  expressed concern with the funding source.                                   
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley  MOVED to  adopt  Amendment CED-2  (copy on                 
  file).  He  explained that the  Governor reduced the  Surety                 
  Fund in the Department of Commerce and Economic Development.                 
  The amendment would add $82.0 thousand dollars to the Surety                 
  Fund  and  delete  $42.0 thousand  dollars  in  general fund                 
  program receipts.     There being  NO OBJECTION,  it was  so                 
  ordered.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf  MOVED to  adopt Amendment  CED-3                 
  (copy on  file).  Amendment  CED-3 would change  the funding                 
  source  of  $876.5  thousand dollars  from  general  fund to                 
  general   fund  program   receipts  for   the  Division   of                 
  Measurement  and  Standards,   Department  of  Commerce  and                 
  Economic Development; and  add $843.6  thousand dollars  for                 
  the  Alaska   Seafood  Marketing   Institute  (ASMI).     He                 
  emphasized  that  the  reduction to  ASMI  takes  money from                 
  export promotions.   He stated that  this money was  reduced                 
  under the assumption that funding would be available through                 
  HB 397.  He  observed that the funding available  through HB
  397 is the result  of the whitefish fisheries and  should be                 
  spent  on domestic  programs.   He  observed  that ASMI  has                 
  requested to be  held harmless in FY 97  in order to address                 
  problems resulting from the salmon glut.                                     
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KIM ELTON spoke in  support of Amendment CED-                 
  3.   He explained  that  ASMI receives  federal funds  which                 
  require a 15 percent cash match.  In addition, ASMI receives                 
  processor and harvester assessments.  A 3 percent assessment                 
  against the value of all the  product landed at the dock  is                 
  paid by processors to ASMI.  Salmon harvesters  are assessed                 
  1 percent  of the  value of  salmon harvested.   The  salmon                 
  harvester assessment is  limited by statute to  the domestic                 
  market.   The processor assessment  comes from all  types of                 
  seafood.    The processor  assessment  is not  restricted by                 
  statute but has historically been spent on domestic markets.                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley noted that he served on an ASMI subcommittee                 
  on export funding.  He observed  that federal funds are only                 
                                                                               
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  used for foreign markets.                                                    
                                                                               
  Representative Elton noted that the federal portion has been                 
  reduced to  $4.0 million  dollars.   He  added that  federal                 
  foreign funding has  to be matched  by private funding.   He                 
  noted that the  total marketing program including  the state                 
  and private match is $9.6 million dollars.                                   
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley  noted   that  the  match  has   been  over                 
  appropriated in past budgets.                                                
                                                                               
  Representative Kelly  explained that the reduction  was made                 
  under the  assumption that ASMI can seek  funding from other                 
  sources.  He acknowledged  that it would not be  appropriate                 
  to use  whitefish funding as  a match for  salmon marketing.                 
  He noted that there  is $1.3 million dollars in HB  397.  He                 
  observed that the  on shore processing tax  includes funding                 
  from salmon processing.   He explained that the  match could                 
  be funded from the  on shore processing tax and  replaced by                 
  whitefish funds.                                                             
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre  spoke in support of Amendment CED-3.                 
  Representative  Grussendorf  maintained  that the  amendment                 
  represents a good investment for the State.                                  
                                                                               
  Representative   Mulder   maintained   that  the   amendment                 
  represents  a  direct  subsidy  to  the  commercial  fishing                 
  industry.                                                                    
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 96-92, Side 2)                                             
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre  noted that the  State receives taxes                 
  from  the fishing  industry.   He stressed  that low  salmon                 
  prices will result in a reduction in state revenues.                         
                                                                               
  Representative  Elton  pointed   out  that  the  cooperative                 
  marketing program is 95 percent paid  by industry.  He noted                 
  that  at its  conception the  program was  90 percent  state                 
  supported.   He  expressed concern  that the  lack of  state                 
  support will result in the loss of the processor assessment.                 
  Processors can vote to eliminate the assessment in 1997.                     
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Navarre                                               
  OPPOSED:  Kelly,   Kohring,    Martin,   Mulder,    Parnell,                 
  Therriault,         Foster, Hanley                                           
                                                                               
  Representative Brown was absent from the vote.                               
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (2-8).                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Representative Navarre  MOVED to adopt Amendment CED-4 (copy                 
  on file).  Representative Mulder  objected.  Amendment CED-4                 
  would  add $80.7  thousand  dollars  for the  Commissioner's                 
  Office,  Department  of Commerce  and  Economic Development.                 
  Representative Navarre  noted that the Commissioner  sits on                 
  13 - 14 boards and a number of task forces.   This amendment                 
  funds  a  special assistant  responsible  for  the Marketing                 
  Alaska program.                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Kelly  noted that there were  two development                 
  specialist  positions in  the  Department to  administer the                 
  Alaska  Rural Development  Assistance program  (ARDOR).   He                 
  pointed out that  the ARDOR program  was transferred to  the                 
  Department  of  Community  and Regional  Affairs.    The two                 
  support  positions remained  in Department  of  Commerce and                 
  Economic Development.  He stated that one of these positions                 
  is working on the Marketing Alaska program.                                  
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Navarre                                               
  OPPOSED:  Kelly,   Kohring,    Martin,   Mulder,    Parnell,                 
  Therriault,         Foster, Hanley                                           
                                                                               
  Representative Brown was absent from the vote.                               
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (2-8).                                                     
                                                                               
  Amendment CED-5 was HELD.                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Foster MOVED to adopt Amendment CED-1.                              
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DON LONG spoke in support of Amendment CED-1.                 
  He  stressed  the  importance of  training  programs  in his                 
  region.  He  pointed out that there is a  high percentage of                 
  unemployment and individuals on state welfare programs.                      
                                                                               
  Representative Martin expressed  support for KTC.   He asked                 
  if funding could  be transferred from the  Chukchi Community                 
  College campus of the University  of Alaska.  Representative                 
  Long  stressed   the  difference  in   curriculums  and  the                 
  importance of both forms of education.                                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre  MOVED to  AMEND Amendment  CED-1 by                 
  changing the funding source; delete the reductions of $100.0                 
  thousand dollars from the Division  of Trade and Development                 
  and  Department of  Commerce  and  Economic Development  and                 
  $100.0 thousand dollars  from the  Office of the  Ombudsman;                 
  and  add a  deletion  of $200.0  thousand  dollars from  the                 
  Legislature, Operating Budget.  Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED.                    
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre  maintained  that   the  legislative                 
  operating budget can  be reduced this  year.  He noted  that                 
  there is a new legislature coming in next year.  He asserted                 
                                                                               
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  that the new  legislature can adjust  to the reduction.   He                 
  argued  that  the legislative  operating  budget would  be a                 
  better place  to make  a reduction  then the  Office of  the                 
  Ombudsman or the Division of Trade and Development.                          
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf spoke in support of the amendment                 
  to the amendment.                                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Foster  WITHDREW his  objection.   There  being NO                 
  OBJECTION, the amendment to the amendment was adopted.                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin expressed  interest  in changing  the                 
  funding source in Amendment CED-1 of $100.0 thousand dollars                 
  from  the Office  of the  Governor to the  Chukchi Community                 
  College.  Co-Chair  Hanley pointed  out that the  Governor's                 
  contingency fund still contains $150.0 thousand dollars.                     
                                                                               
  There being  NO OBJECTION,  Amendment CED-1  as amended  was                 
  adopted.                                                                     
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                 
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf  MOVED to adopt  Amendment CRA-1.                 
  Representative Mulder  OBJECTED.  Amendment CRA-1  would add                 
  $80.0 thousand dollars to the Alaska Marine Safety Education                 
  Association  (AMSE).    Representative Grussendorf  stressed                 
  that AMSE serves approximately 120 communities and instructs                 
  the public in regards to boating safety.                                     
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley noted  that the program had  been previously                 
  funded by  the federal  government.   He  observed that  the                 
  issue will  be addressed in  legislation to come  before the                 
  Committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION  to adopt Amendment                 
  CRA-1.                                                                       
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre                                        
  OPPOSED:  Kelly,  Kohring,   Martin,  Parnell,   Therriault,                 
  Foster,        Hanley                                                        
                                                                               
  Representative Mulder was absent from the vote.                              
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (3-7).                                                     
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                              
                                                                               
  Representative Brown MOVED to adopt Amendment CED-5 (copy on                 
  file).  Amendment  CED-5 would  appropriate $110.0  thousand                 
  dollars  to   the  Department   of  Commerce  and   Economic                 
  Development to fund Alaska Public Lands  Information Centers                 
  (APLIC).    She  emphasized  that   the  state  and  federal                 
                                                                               
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  governments are in  a partnership to provide  information on                 
  state and federal  lands.   She observed that  if the  State                 
  does not continue its support the centers  will only provide                 
  information about  federal lands.   The federal contribution                 
  is  over $1.0  million dollars.   The centers  serve 250,000                 
  visitors annually.   The program has  been in effect for  14                 
  years.  She maintained that the reduction is too deep.                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Kelly emphasized  that federal  funding will                 
  not be  jeopardized.   Representative Brown  maintained that                 
  the federal government will not pick up the State's portion.                 
  Information on state lands will not be provided.                             
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley noted  that the  reduction was made  in the                 
  Governor's proposed budget.                                                  
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken  on the MOTION to adopt Amendment                 
  CED-5.                                                                       
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre                                        
  OPPOSED:  Kelly,   Kohring,    Martin,   Mulder,    Parnell,                 
  Therriault, Foster, Hanley                                                   
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                     
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                 
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre MOVED to adopt  Amendment CRA-2 (copy                 
  on file).   Representative Kelly OBJECTED.   Amendment CRA-2                 
  would  restore  $161.0  thousand  dollars  for Alaska  Legal                 
  Services.   Representative Navarre  noted that  Alaska Legal                 
  Services primarily serves  rural Alaska.   Forty percent  of                 
  their clientele  are Alaskan  Natives.   He maintained  that                 
  services will be reduced in rural areas of Alaska.                           
                                                                               
  Representative Kelly  stressed that  it is not  the role  of                 
  government  to  provide  free  civil  legal  services.    He                 
  acknowledged the  constitutional mandate  to provide  public                 
  defenders.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  argued  that it  is  a  function that                 
  should  be  funded adequately.    She observed  that between                 
  60,000 and 70,000 Alaskans are living  at the poverty level.                 
  She asserted that access to the court system is not possible                 
  without some form of subsidized help.  Alaska Legal Services                 
  provides  advise  on   divorce,  adoption,  child   custody,                 
  landlord disputes,  wills, unemployment  and probates.   She                 
  maintained that the legal system should be  available to low                 
  income individuals.   Offices  have already  been closed  in                 
  Dillingham, Kodiak and  Kotzebue.   She observed that  there                 
  are currently 483 open cases.                                                
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Representative  Kelly  noted  that   Alaska  Legal  Services                 
  receives  over  $1.0 million  dollars  in federal  funds and                 
  other grants.  He  emphasized that there is plenty  of money                 
  from other sources.                                                          
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE  IRENE NICHOLIA  disagreed that  Alaska Legal                 
  Services receives over  a million dollars in  federal funds.                 
  She observed that  federal funds were  cut.  She added  that                 
  the Nome office also closed.  She stressed the importance of                 
  the service.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Parnell  acknowledged   the  difficulty   in                 
  cutting this service.   He observed that as an  Attorney, 14                 
  percent of his legal services were provided for free to help                 
  low income  individuals.   He stressed  that attorneys  will                 
  have to help more to fill the need.                                          
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  commended Representative  Parnell for                 
  his services to  those in need.   She questioned if  seeking                 
  free counsel from  private attorneys  is a viable  approach.                 
  She  gave  an  example of  a  case  served  by Alaska  Legal                 
  Services.                                                                    
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION  to adopt Amendment                 
  CRA-2.                                                                       
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre, Foster                                
  OPPOSED:  Kelly,   Kohring,    Martin,   Mulder,    Parnell,                 
  Therriault,         Hanley                                                   
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (4-7).                                                     
                                                                               
  UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                         
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre MOVED  to adopt Amendment UA-1  (copy                 
  on file).  Representative Mulder OBJECTED.                                   
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 96-93, Side 2)                                             
                                                                               
  Amendment UA-1 would restore an unallocated budget reduction                 
  of   $283,600   dollars  to   the   University  of   Alaska.                 
  Representative  Navarre explained  that the  amendment would                 
  fund  salary  increases that  the  University of  Alaska has                 
  refused to honor.                                                            
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin  stressed  that   the  House  Finance                 
  Subcommittee addressed  the issue.  The  Subcommittee turned                 
  down  the request because  of the broader  issue of contract                 
  negotiations.                                                                
                                                                               
  Representative   Grussendorf   expressed  support   for  the                 
  amendment.                                                                   
                                                                               
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  In  response   to   comments   by   Representative   Martin,                 
  Representative  Navarre clarified  that the  amendment would                 
  fund FY 97 negotiated salary costs.                                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley  pointed  out  that  the  amendment  cannot                 
  guarantee that the money will be  spent by the University to                 
  fund the increase.   He observed  that an amendment will  be                 
  offered  to  pull  out  salary  increases  due  to  contract                 
  negotiations  in the FY 97  operating budget.  Language will                 
  be  offered  for the  front  section  to turn  down  all the                 
  contracts.  He emphasized that if language  turning down the                 
  contracts  is not  included that the  agencies will  have to                 
  absorb their cost.                                                           
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre estimated that if the  University has                 
  to absorb contract costs that  a disproportional amount will                 
  be taken from the outlying campuses.                                         
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE   JOHN  DAVIES   spoke  in  support   of  the                 
  amendment.  He  stressed that  the University contends  that                 
  the negotiated contracts will not be funded unless there  is                 
  explicit  funding  by  the  Legislature.    He  stated  that                 
  explicit approval can be followed by an equal reduction.  He                 
  disagreed with the removal of the contract costs.                            
                                                                               
  A roll call vote  was taken on the MOTION to adopt Amendment                 
  UA-1.                                                                        
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre                                        
  OPPOSED:  Kelly,   Kohring,    Martin,   Mulder,    Parnell,                 
  Therriault,         Foster, Hanley                                           
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                     
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                    
                                                                               
  Representative Mulder  MOVED to adopt Amendment  DOC-1 (copy                 
  on file).  He explained that  the amendment will add back to                 
  the Department of  Corrections $464.1 thousand dollars.   It                 
  changes many  of  the  specific  reductions  to  unallocated                 
  reductions.      This  will   allow   the   Department  more                 
  flexibility.  The  amendment recommends  a total budget  for                 
  the Department of $137,919,800 million dollars,  an increase                 
  of $9.9 thousand dollars  over FY 96 Authorized.  The  FY 96                 
  Authorized included  carry forward of  $2.4 million  dollars                 
  from FY 95.  He noted specific changes:                                      
                                                                               
       *    Administrative   and   Support   funding   is                      
            increased  by  $180.0  thousand  dollars,  no                      
            reductions are taken from the Parole Board;                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
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       *    Funding  for  institutions  is  increased  by                      
            $199.0 thousand dollars;                                           
                                                                               
       *    Correctional  Industries  is returned  to the                      
            Institutions BRU;                                                  
                                                                               
       *    Intent language is added  requesting that the                      
            Department  review  perimeter  guards, Cleary                      
            monitoring,   educational  coordinators   and                      
            assistant superintendents to  determine value                      
            and function;                                                      
                                                                               
       *    Mental  health  nurses,  educational contract                      
            services   and   coordinators,   Correctional                      
            Officers    III     and    most     assistant                      
            superintendents  have  not  been specifically                      
            eliminated;                                                        
                                                                               
       *    Funding  is   increased  for   Community                           
            Corrections by $84.5 thousand dollars;                             
                                                                               
       *    CRC  beds  are  returned   to  the  Community                      
            Corrections   BRU   but  remain   a  separate                      
            component; and                                                     
                                                                               
       *    Funding for  a day reporting  project remains                      
            unfunded.                                                          
                                                                               
  Representative  Mulder  noted  that  the  amendment  retains                 
  elimination of several positions that are either unfilled or                 
  are attached to programs that will not continues.                            
                                                                               
  Representative   Brown   noted   that  the   Department   of                 
  Corrections' budget is  still $450.0 thousand  dollars below                 
  the House  Majority's recommended cap.   She asked  if $80.0                 
  thousand dollars for inmate health care is funded.                           
                                                                               
  Representative Mulder explained that there  is a no specific                 
  recommended reduction within  inmate health care.   There is                 
  an  unallocated reduction  of  $1,741  million dollars  from                 
  institutions as a whole.  The Department is requested not to                 
  add  new  positions.    He  noted  that  the  Department  is                 
  requested to reallocate  existing PCNs  in order  to have  a                 
  more accurate PCN count.                                                     
                                                                               
  BOB COLE, DIRECTOR,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, DEPARTMENT  OF                 
  CORRECTIONS stated  that the  Department will  have to  make                 
  unallocated  reductions.  He  noted areas of  concern to the                 
  Department:                                                                  
                                                                               
       *    Elimination  of a  special  assistant in  the                      
            Commissioner's Office;                                             
                                                                               
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       *    Elimination of  the assistant  superintendent                      
            at Highland Mountain Correctional Center;                          
                                                                               
       *    Elimination  of  a  $334.7   thousand  dollar                      
            request to fund a day reporting center; and                        
                                                                               
       *    A   $241.0   reduction  for   Point  McKenzie                      
            expansion.                                                         
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  questioned  the  Legislature's  legal                 
  authority to eliminate specific positions.                                   
                                                                               
  NANCY SLAGLE, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF BUDGET REVIEW, OFFICE OF                 
  MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,  OFFICE OF  THE GOVERNOR stated  that                 
  the  Legislature  does  not  appropriate  positions.     The                 
  Legislature appropriates  funding for  the operation  of the                 
  State.    The  Administration  uses  the funds  and  creates                 
  positions.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  expressed   concerns  regarding   the                 
  proposed  elimination   of  the  special  assistant  in  the                 
  Commissioner's Office  and the  assistant superintendent  at                 
  Highland Mountain Correctional  facility.  She asked  if the                 
  Department has the  ability to  fund these  positions.   Ms.                 
  Slagle stated that the Department can create positions based                 
  on the funding level.                                                        
                                                                               
  Representative    Mulder    referred   to    the   assistant                 
  superintendent   at   the  Highland   Mountain  Correctional                 
  facility.   He noted  that Highland  Mountain is  a 300  bed                 
  facility.   There  are  two assistant  superintendents,  one                 
  supervises the women's  beds and  one the men's.   He  noted                 
  that there are 64 - 66 women inmates.                                        
                                                                               
  There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment DOC-1 was adopted.                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  WITHDREW  Amendment  DOC-2  (copy  on                 
  file).                                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre MOVED to adopt Amendment DOC-3 (copy                 
  on file).   Representative Mulder OBJECTED.   Representative                 
  Navarre  explained  that  the  amendment  would  reduce  the                 
  Governor's request by $2.0 million dollars.  He  pointed out                 
  that  this  is  the  cap  level  recommended  by  the  House                 
  Majority.  The  reduction would be unallocated.  He stressed                 
  that an unallocated reduction will maximize the Department's                 
  management authority and provide flexibility.                                
                                                                               
  Representative  Mulder spoke  against  the  amendment.    He                 
  stressed  that the Subcommittee  recommendation is above the                 
  FY 96 authorized  amount.  He  maintained that the  proposed                 
                                                                               
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  funding  level is  realistic  and  addresses  public  safety                 
  concerns.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre  noted  that  prison  population  is                 
  growing at a rate of 8  - 10 percent a year.   He emphasized                 
  the need to allow management to address this growth.                         
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION to  adopt Amendment                 
  DOC-3.                                                                       
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre                                        
  OPPOSED:  Kelly,   Kohring,    Martin,   Mulder,    Parnell,                 
  Therriault,         Foster, Hanley                                           
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                     
                                                                               
  In  response   to  a   question  by   Representative  Brown,                 
  Representative Mulder  agreed that Amendment  DOC-1 includes                 
  the Governor's request  for $80.0  thousand dollars to  fund                 
  two psychiatric nurses.   The PCN's for  these positions are                 
  not included but the Department  can convert other PCN's  or                 
  establish new ones.  Representative Brown WITHDREW Amendment                 
  DOC-4 (copy on file).                                                        
                                                                               
  In  response   to  a  question   by  Representative   Brown,                 
  Representative Mulder noted that inmate programs reflect the                 
  Governor's requested amount.                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative Brown  noted that Amendment DOC-1 states that                 
  the educational coordinators are where  they are supposed to                 
  be.  She observed that Amendment  DOC-5 (copy on file) would                 
  reinstate educational  coordinators.  She  noted that  these                 
  positions provide adult basic education.                                     
                                                                               
  Representative  Mulder noted  that  Cook Inlet  Correctional                 
  Center is contracting  for a educational coordinator.   This                 
  positions  will  remain in  the  contractual line.   Several                 
  facilities have two educational coordinators.  He emphasized                 
  that the Subcommittee  recommends that these be  reviewed to                 
  see  if  a  savings  can  be  realized  through  contracting                 
  services.    He  stressed  that   the  Subcommittee  is  not                 
  recommending that these positions be deleted.                                
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  WITHDREW  Amendment  DOC-5  (copy  on                 
  file).                                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  noted  that  the  Highland   Mountain                 
  assistant  superintendent  is  not funded.    Representative                 
  Mulder stressed that  the recommendation for elimination  of                 
  this position came from the prison guards.                                   
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  noted   that  other  reductions   are                 
                                                                               
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  unallocated.   She  questioned  why  the  Highland  Mountain                 
  assistant  superintendent  was  identified for  elimination.                 
  She maintained that the there are administrative duties that                 
  must be performed.                                                           
                                                                               
  Representative   Mulder  reiterated   that  there   are  two                 
  assistant    superintendents    at     Highland    Mountain.                 
  Representative Brown pointed out  that Highland Mountain  is                 
  performing long term rehabilitation.                                         
                                                                               
  Mr.  Cole  spoke  in  support  of  retaining  the  assistant                 
  superintendent   position   at    the   Highland    Mountain                 
  Correctional facility.  He noted that the women's campus has                 
  an  active  programing  component.    He stressed  that  the                 
  institution is largely run as two separate operations.                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown   stressed  the  need  to   allow  the                 
  Department  to manage  effectively.   Representative  Mulder                 
  stated that the  position will be  deleted by the action  of                 
  adopting  Amendment  DOC-1.     He  acknowledged   that  the                 
  Department could  create the  position again.   He  stressed                 
  that there are higher priorities.                                            
                                                                               
  Representative   Brown   noted   that  the   Department   of                 
  Corrections  has  historically  under  served  women.    She                 
  stressed that this position is the women's superintendent.                   
                                                                               
  Representative Brown MOVED to adopt  amended Amendment DOC-6                 
  (copy on  file).   Amendment DOC-6  as amended  would delete                 
  language in Amendment DOC-1 that would identify the Highland                 
  Mountain assistant superintendent position  for elimination.                 
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre                                        
  OPPOSED:  Kelly,   Kohring,    Martin,   Mulder,    Parnell,                 
  Therriault,         Foster, Hanley                                           
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                     
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 96-93, Side 1)                                             
                                                                               
  Representative Brown referred  to data and word  processing.                 
  She  emphasized  the  importance of  these  functions.   She                 
  observed that a  request authorizing  federal funding to  up                 
  grade  the  information  system  was  not  included  in  the                 
  operating budget.   She expressed  concern that the  funding                 
  will  not  be  included  in  the  limited  capital  projects                 
  improvement legislation.                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Mulder  agreed with  the need  to revamp  the                 
  Department   of  Corrections'   information   system.     He                 
  maintained  that  it  is  appropriate  to show  the  federal                 
                                                                               
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  funding in the capital  budget.  He noted that they  are one                 
  time positions.   He did not  want the positions built  into                 
  the operating base.  He emphasized that federal funds can be                 
  added in the capital budget.                                                 
                                                                               
  Mr. Cole clarified  that the three  micro-network technician                 
  specialist  positions  will need  to  be retained  in future                 
  budgets.                                                                     
  Federal funding was located to  retain these three positions                 
  for FY 97.  The three analyst programmer positions that were                 
  deleted from the  general fund  portion of the  Department's                 
  request are budgeted as interagency  receipts.  He explained                 
  that  this would  allow funding to  be transferred  from the                 
  Department of Public  Safety if federal funding  is received                 
  or allow the Department  to bill internally.  He  noted that                 
  it is unlikely  that funding will  be located for the  three                 
  deleted analyst programmer positions.                                        
                                                                               
  In  response   to  a   question  by   Representative  Brown,                 
  Representative  Mulder  clarified  that  the  classification                 
  officer's  position  in  the  Office   of  Commissioner  was                 
  restored.                                                                    
                                                                               
  STATEWIDE                                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley  noted that  Municipal Assistance  and State                 
  Revenue  Sharing  were  not included  in  the  House Finance                 
  Subcommittees'  reports.     He   observed  that   Amendment                 
  Statewide-1  (copy  on  file) would  include  the Governor's                 
  proposed funding  level for Municipal  Assistance ($29,402.3                 
  million dollars), State  Revenue Sharing ($24,170.0  million                 
  dollars)  and   the  Renters'  Equivalency   Rebate  program                 
  ($300.0).   He noted  that the  Governor's proposal  reduces                 
  Municipal Assistance and State Revenue Sharing by 8 percent.                 
  The Senior Citizens'  Property Tax Exemption was  not funded                 
  in the FY  97 request.   The Senior  Citizens' Property  Tax                 
  Exemption was funded at $1,163.0 million dollars in FY 96.                   
                                                                               
  Representative Martin MOVED  to adopt Amendment Statewide-1.                 
  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley  observed that  after discussions  with the                 
  Administration  some  on going  capital  appropriations were                 
  transferred  to the  operating  budget.   He noted  that the                 
  inclusion  of  these  items  in  the operating  budget  have                 
  created  confusion.     Amendment  Statewide-2  would   deny                 
  transfers  of capital  items to  the operating  budget.   He                 
  noted that  these  items will  be discussed  in the  capital                 
  budget.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Martin MOVED  to adopt Amendment Statewide-2.                 
  Representative Navarre OBJECTED for  purposes of discussion.                 
                                                                               
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  He observed that items were  originally transferred from the                 
  operating  budget to  the capital  budget in  order to  show                 
  reductions in the operating budget.  He pointed out that the                 
  largest  percentage   of  these  items   are  for   deferred                 
  maintenance in  the Department of Transportation  and Public                 
  Facilities.    He  stressed that  these  projects  should be                 
  retained in the operating budget.  He expressed concern that                 
  there will not be sufficient funding in the  capital budget.                 
  He noted that deferred maintenance costs should be funded on                 
  an annual basis.                                                             
                                                                               
  Representative Brown maintained that the Department of Law's                 
  litigation budget should  be in the  operating budget.   Co-                 
  Chair Hanley noted  that specific cases under  litigation by                 
  the Department of Law were transferred because they were not                 
  expected to continue  past a specific  amount of time.   The                 
  concern was  that  these  costs  would become  part  of  the                 
  Department's base.                                                           
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley acknowledged  that debate needs  to continue                 
  regarding the appropriate funding source for these items.                    
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre  WITHDREW his  objection.   Amendment                 
  Statewide-2 was adopted.                                                     

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